félelem - teama - fear

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Láttam egy nagyon jó filmet. Eleinte idegenkedtem tőle, mert nagyon veszélyes dolgokat mutat be, elég durva.
3 részből áll. Az első a kereszténységet, a második 9/11-et, a harmadik pedig a múlt század történéseit tárgyalja / kérdőjelezi meg / dönti romba. A film amerikai szempontból mutatja be az egészet, de mind hatással van az egész világra és azt, ami elhangzik, bárhol el lehet képzelni.
Mindenek előtt nem szabad szó szerint venni, amit mond, egy film nem lehet döntő bizonyíték, nem kell könnyen elhinni, csak azért mert valószínű. (Vannak olyan dolgok, amiket nem is akarok tudni, például, nekem hiába magyarázzák hogy milyen mértékben valóság Jézus élete, semmi szükségem nincs rá, hogy feldúlják a hitemet.) Egyszerűen csak jó elgondolkozni azon, hogy a történelem egyáltalán nem tiszta, semmivel sem biztosabb, mint a jelen vagy a jövő.
Viszont a film általános üzenete nagyon-nagyon fontos. Mind tudjuk, hogy a Háborúból az egyszerű emberek nem nyernek semmit. Elmennek, hogy legyőzzenek egy gonoszt, mert félnek tőle. Ráadásul csak azért félnek, mert különbözik tőlük, mert nem ismerik, félnek hogy talán amaz támad előbb. Pedig nincs olyan, hogy "gonosz", mert az "ellenség" táborában is csak Emberek vannak. Lehet, hogy más színű a bőrük, más a vallásuk, a nyelvük és nagyon idegennek, ijesztőnek tűnnek, de ugyanolyan riadt emberek, akik féltik a családjaikat, a szokásaikat, az életüket. És az ő szempontjukból az előbbiek éppolyan mások és ijesztőek. És így az emberek harcolnak és meghalnak, anélkül hogy értenék pontosan miért. Hát azt nem is lehetne megmagyarázni, hogy csak azért, hogy páran meggazdagodjanak a háború folytán. Hosszú, hosszú sztori.
A következtetés pedig ez: Mindig van választási lehetőség - a Félelem és a Szeretet között. Dönthetsz, hogy a melletted levő embertől félni fogsz-e (azaz gyűlölöd), vagy megpróbálod elfogadni...
Egy másik következtetés, amit a filmből lehet levonni az, hogy gondold meg, mielőtt bármit is elhiszel, hogy vajon milyen céllal mondják azt neked?
Igazság szerint nagyon jó lenne, ha el lehetne juttatni ezt valahogy az emberekhez, és ha volna türelmük végignézni, anélkül hogy félreértsék, túlreagálják, stb. Ha csak egy kicsit elgondolkoznának rajta.
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Am văzut un film foarte bun. Iniţial mi-a displăcut, deoarece prezintã lucruri foarte periculoase, destul de dure.
Are 3 părţi. Prima se ocupă cu / pune sub semnul întrebării / distruge idei despre creştinism, a doua despre 9/11, a treia despre întâmplările secolului trecut. Filmul prezintă tot din punctul de vedere American, dar totul are efect asupra întregii lumi şi lucrurile care se spun, se pot aplica oriunde.
Înainte de toate, nu e voie să credem pe cuvânt ce spune, un film nu poate să fie dovada finală, nu trebuie să credem orice cu uşurinţă, doar pentru că e probabil. (Sunt lucruri pe care nici nu vreau să le ştiu, de exemplu, mie degeaba îmi explică în ce măsură e reală viaţa lui Isus, eu n-am nicio nevoie să mi se distrugă credinţa.) Pur şi simplu e bine să reflectezi asupra faptului că istoria nu e deloc clară, nu e cu nimic mai sigură decât viitorul sau prezentul.
Însă mesajul general al filmului este foarte, foarte important. Ştim cu toţii că oamenii simpli nu câştigă nimic din Război. Se duc să înfrângă un rău, fiindcă le e teamă de el. Pe deasupra, le e teamă pur şi simplu din cauză că e diferit faţă de ei, fiindcă nu-l cunosc şi le e teamă că acel rău ar putea să atace mai întâi. De fapt nu există niciun "rău", fiindcă şi în tabăra "inamicului" sunt doar Oameni. Se poate că pielea lor are altă culoare, au o altă religie, o altă limbă şi par foarte străini şi înspăimântători, dar sunt nişte oameni la fel de speriaţi, care ţin la familiile lor, la obiceiurile şi la viaţa lor. Şi din punctul lor de vedere primii sunt la fel de diferiţi şi de înspăimântători. Şi astfel oamenii se luptă şi mor, fără să înţeleagă exact de ce. Păi nici nu s-ar putea explica faptul că asta se întâmplă doar pentru ca unii să se îmbogăţească în timpul războiului. O poveste foarte, foarte lungă.
Iar concluzia este următoarea: Se poate alege mereu - între Teamă şi Iubire. Poţi să decizi dacă-ţi va fi teamă de cel de lângă tine (adică-l vei urî), sau vei încerca să-l accepţi...
O altă concluzie care poate fi trasă după film este să te gândeşti bine, înainte să crezi ceva, oare cu ce scop ţi se spune acel lucru?
Ca să fiu sinceră, ar fi foarte bine dacă acest film ar putea să ajungă cumva la oameni, şi dacã ei ar avea răbdare să se uite până la sfârşit, fără să interpreteze greşit, fără să reacţioneze exagerat, etc. Doar dacă ar reflecta puţin.
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I've seen a very good film. At first I wasn't too fond of it because it presents some very dangerous ideas, it's a bit tough.
It has 3 parts. They deal with / question / destroy the following ideas: Christianity, 9/11 and the happenings of the last century. The film presents everything from an American point of view, but it all has an effect on the whole world and what is said can be imagined anywhere.
First of all, you must not take what it says for granted, a film can't be the most important evidence, you mustn't believe everything just because it's probable. (There are things I don't even want to hear about, for example they can try to prove how much is real from Jesus's life, it won't work because I just don't need my faith to be messed up.) It's simply good to think about the fact that history isn't clear at all, it isn't more certain than the present or the future.
But the general message of the film is very important. We all know that the simple people can't win a thing in a War. They set out to defeat an evil because they're afraid of it. Plus they're afraid of it only because it's something different, they don't know it well, they fear it might attack first. But there is no such thing as “evil”, because in the army of the “enemy” there are also only People. Their skin might be of an other colour, they might have an other religion, an other language and they might seem very strange, scary, but they're just the same some scared people who worry for their families, their habits, their life. And from their point of view the first one seem just as different and scary. And so people fight and die, without understanding what for. Well that couldn't actually be told, that it's all so that a few would get rich. Long, long story.
The conclusion is this: There is always a choice – between Fear and Love. You can choose whether you will be afraid of the person next to you (meaning you will hate them) or you try to accept them... An other conclusion that can be drawn from the film is that you should think very well before you believe anything, think what is the reason you are being told that thing? In fact it would be very good if this film could reach more people somehow, and if they had the patience to watch it until the end without misunderstanding or overreacting and so on. But if they would just think about it a little bit.

11 comments:

  1. Miket nézel, teeee.
    Hát én már a tévében is megválogatom, melyik 12-es jelzésű filmet nézzem meg. Szörnyű ez a sok erőszak, lövöldözés. És valóban a félelem lehet a gyökere.
    Csak belepillantottam a videjóba, de elég volt, hang nélkül is.
    A másságot az emberek nagyon nehezen fogadják el. Nem tudnak élni a másság mellett. Zavaró, ha valami elüt, azt rendbe kell hozni, a "magam képére" kell formálni (isteni ösztönök?). Aztán az eszközökkel van a baj. Különben valahol olvastam régebb egy véleményt: az emberiség tulajdonképpen nem fejlődött kb. az ősközösség óta, csupán az eszközeit fejlesztette. Van benne valami, nem?
    Nénutzi

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  3. Ezutan remelem nezel mas filmeket is es elmulik a rossz hangulatod.
    M.

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  4. Lehet, ha az ember megnézi azt a filmet, még jobban el kezd félni mint eddig. nem is a terrorizmustól, hanem embertársaitól, vagy az amerikaiaktól, vagy csak attól, hogy mennyie manipulálható.
    Tényleg ijeszőek a szálak, a kapcsolatok.

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  5. I started watching this a couple of months ago, but lost interest near the start, but your blog makes me want to watch it properly. I think one of the reasons I stopped was because things weren't referenced - like the comparative religion stuff, and it wouldn't be difficult for the producer to reference it

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  6. yeah I know that's why I wrote you should be careful how much of it you take seriously...

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  7. I have come across other more reliable sources of information of some of the things mentioned - for example some links between Christianity and earlier writings from other religions. But really if he is arguing against mis-information he should be more careful to give sources himself!

    (BTW, personally I think even if parts of what Jesus had to saw was borrowed from other traditions a good message is still a good message!)

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  8. I understand. As I said, that part couldn't really "catch my attention" in any way, I'm totally immune to such things, it was like an interesting introduction :D

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  9. Yes you have mentioned that before. I find it interesting :)

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  10. idézzlek
    'Dönthetsz, hogy a melletted levő embertől félni fogsz-e (azaz gyűlölöd)',

    bocsi de itt egy kicsi kavarodás van
    én például félek a fogorvostól de nem gyűlöllöm és még sorolhatnám nem kénne osze keverned a szezont a fazzonal LoL

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  11. szia, itt nem bármilyen emberre utalok, vagy csak félelemre, hanem azokra akiket úgy fogunk fel, mint 'ellenfél' vagy 'más'.
    Gyakran ez a fajta félelem gyűlöletben nyilvánul meg. Lásd rasszizmus, homofóbia...

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